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Rose & Crown, Bury St. Edmunds


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48 Whiting St, Bury St. Edmunds, IP33 1NP (View on Google Map)
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In sight of Greene King's Westgate brewery, this is a traditional pub with two bars and separate off sales hatch. New landlord Gordon took over in September 2019 after retirement of the previous tenants of 34 years service. Good value wholesome food served lunchtimes Monday to Saturday. The pub is a Grade II listed building located within the conservation area of Bury St Edmunds with a CAMRA heritage interior. Always one mild on handpump.

Historic Interest

This pub is on the corner of Whiting St. & Westgate St. & has been reported at 49 or 50 Westgate St. & 47 or 48 Whiting St.

Information for this venue is provided by the West Suffolk & Borders Branch of CAMRA
Previous Names
Local Authority
West Suffolk District
Last updated
13/08/2023
Last surveyed
21/04/2022
Leasehold owner
unknown
Freehold owner
Greene King
Pub ID
WSB/165
Asset of Community Value

Two star - A pub interior of very special national historic interest

Listed status: II

A pub since at least 1913, it retains the original two bars plus off-sales floor plan, though there were extensions and alterations in the mid-1970s. The public bar counter is a good 70 years old as are the bar back shelving and part-panelled walls with benches attached. The saloon bar has more tongue-and-groove panelling plus another old counter and a mirrored bar back. The illuminated display case on the left used to be a door to the gents. In between these rooms, the off-sales is a historic item - a tiny, narrow room, more like a passage and with an old counter and part-mirrored bar back. It's used mainly for confectionery sales but the occasional jug is still filled with cask ale.

General information about historic pub interiors

17th century timber framed house with 19th century exterior of red brick on the ground floor and faced in alternate bands of plain and ornamental tiles on the upper storey. Has been a pub since at least 1913, possibly Victorian times. It retains a rare original floor plan of two bars plus an off-sales between them and the little altered interior owes much to the pub being run by the same family since 1975.

The oddly shaped public bar is as a result it it being extended into private quarters in 1975. A hole / hatch was created in the wall that separated the left hand part of the public bar and a former living room now the right hand part of the public bar at that time. The wall was situated adjacent to the public bar door and so a private room was brought into pub use.

Then in c.1976 it was decided to knock down the wall, which nearly doubled the size of the public bar, and also a staircase to the first floor was removed. Interestingly, it was decided to add a bar in the right hand part of the room so the section to the right of the main door only dates from c.1976 but looks almost identical - bar counter front and top - to the original on the left hand side. It is not easy to spot any difference. The metal post (or acro) was added at this time to hold up the ceiling. The public bar therefore retains a sturdy bar counter at least 70 years old, an old bar back shelving, old part panelled walls with benches attached (with post-war leatherette cushioning; possibly a fireplace has been lost.

Between the Public Bar and the Saloon Bar is the off-sales with its own entrance and is a rare survivor. An inner door with a sign 'Off Sales' leads to a tiny narrow room more like a passage with a dado of tongue and groove panelling. There is an old small bar counter with three handpumps and the part mirrored bar back is old with modern shelving added to the left. The off sales is still in use today mainly for confectionery, but occasionally for customers to fill a jug with cask ale - something you cannot buy at the supermarket!

The Saloon Bar on the left has more old tongue and groove panelling, an old bar counter, which in 1975 had a red Formica top - now wood, and an old mirrored bar back fitting; the pot shelf is an addition. On the left hand side of the room is a small illuminated display case which was originally a door to a gents urinal. The fixed seating is from post war times, the fireplace has been lost, and the alcove on the right is a bit of a mystery to the present tenants and may relate to when this building was originally three cottages.

General information about historic pub interiors
Opening Times Unavailable

Current beers

This Pub serves 4 changing beers and 2 regular beers.

Regular and recently seen
ABBOT ALE PUMP CLIP CLOSE UP
Greene King - Abbot

Premium Bitter

ABV: 5%
Vegan: No
Gluten Free: No

This beer is served regularly.

GREENE KING IPA PUMP CLIP FRONT
Greene King - IPA

Session Bitter

ABV: 3.4%
Vegan: No
Gluten Free: No

This beer is served regularly.

Changing

Changing beers typically include: Nethergate - Melford Mild , Theakston - Old Peculier , Timothy Taylor - Landlord

Source: National


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Facilities
Lunchtime Meals Lunchtime Meals
Garden Garden
Courtyard
Games Games
Separate Bar Separate Bar
Smoking Smoking
Wi Fi Wi Fi
Features
Real Ale Real Ale
Real Heritage Pub Real Heritage Pub
LocAle LocAle
Cask Marque Cask Marque
Quiet Quiet
Transport
Close to bus routes
Closest station (1506m)
Bury St Edmunds
Directions
On the corner of Whiting Street and Westgate

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