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Operator: Dallas Pub Company
1262 High Road, Whetstone, N20 9HH (View on Google Map)

Now offering two regular ales plus one guest; often Landlord or Tribute. Hophead will sometimes be available during the summer months. Although reported November 2024 only one beer availble.

Front L shaped bar with two large bay windows; a lovely place to sit especially when the sun is shining! An atrium brings light to the rear of the bar area.

Move into the garden and its like a Tardis!! Many different areas, some with TV screens for all sports events leading to a very large back garden and covered courtyard area with sofas.

When the kitchen is closed, you can bring in your own food,

Quiz night every Wednesday.

A chunk of the whetstone, which is thought to give the area its name, is located on the pavement outside. Legend has it that soldiers sharpened their swords on it before the Battle of Barnet (1471).

Some say Whetstone got its name as a corruption of 'West Town' and the stone was a mounting block in the days of horse drawn vehicles on the road to Scotland.

While the stone is Grade II listed, the pub is not although Barnet Council approved ACV status in March 2016.

Information for this venue is provided by the Enfield & Barnet Branch of CAMRA
Previous Names
Scruffy Murphys
Local Authority
Barnet
Last updated
01/11/2024
Last surveyed
10/03/2022
Leasehold owner
Heineken UK
Freehold owner
Heineken UK
Pub ID
ENF/7407
Asset of Community Value

One star - A pub interior of special national historic interest

Listed status: Not listed

This former coaching inn on the road north has numerous inter-war features following a quality refit in the 1930.

The present front room would originally have been divided into three areas - a small bar (possibly public) on the right; a jug and bottle bar in the centre (unused doorway still in evidence); and a slightly larger bar (possibly saloon) on the left. The bar counter looks inter-war, although the counter top and bar-back look to be modern additions. There is a dado of inter-war fielded panelling around the room, and also of real interest is the matchboard panelled ceiling. Also of particular note are the two brick fireplaces. On the left is a splendid large Tudor Arch-shaped stone fireplace with an inter-war brick interior, and a three-bay overmantle with diagonally-set 1930s brick. The one on the right also has brickwork, including  a brick Tudor arch. At the rear is what was a separate ‘better room’ which is lit by a fine skylight (with modern glass) and which looks like an old billiards room. The doors leading from this room with their Tudor arched tops certainly look inter-war.

On the pavement at the front of the pub is the Grade II listed Whetstone, which is said to be the origin of the village name, and which Historic England says is probably a mounting block.

General information about historic pub interiors

1930s fittings. Of particular note are the two brick fireplaces, one with a wooden Tudor arch, and another with a brick Tudor arch. The back room with its skylight certainly looked like an old billiards room (the landlady didn't know), and the doors leading from the back room with their Tudor arched tops certainly look inter-war. The bar back looked more modern, but the counter front and wall panelling also looked inter-war. Also of real interest is the matchboard panelled ceiling in the front room (seen in one of the attached photos). The front room would originally have been divided into three areas - a small bar (possibly public) on the right; a jug and bottle bar in the centre (unused doorway still in evidence); and a slightly larger bar (possibly saloon) on the left.

Subject to a quality refit in the inter-war period. The doors to the original coaching arch on the right look older but presumably 1930s? There are three front doors – Public Bar, Off Sales, and Private Bar from left to right but they all lead to the one space now. The bar counter could date to the inter-war period with the front recently painted teal blue but the bar back is modern. The Victorian-style wood surround and tiled fireplace is out of place.

At the rear is what was a separate ‘better room’ which is lit by a fine skylight (with modern glass). There is a splendid large Tudor Arch-shaped stone fireplace with an inter-war brick interior. The three-bay over mantle has diagonally set 1930s brick. There is a dado of inter-war fielded panelling around the room / area and an ornate cornice.

LPG Crawl says description is: -

A pub on this site was a coaching inn for those heading north from London. Inside there are several (inter-war probably) heritage features. The fielded wood panelling on the walls is old, as is the bar counter front, and the unusual Tudor arch topped doors at the back are an interesting feature. There are brick built fireplaces on both sides of the main bar area which are clearly original, as is the rare diagonal (grey-painted) matchboard panelling on the ceiling. This room would once have been divided into three - what was probably the public bar on the right; a jug and bottle bar leading from the now unused door in the centre; and a saloon bar on the left. There is a fairly large room at the back which has a large skylight which suggests that it may have been a billiards room. On the right, behind the large double doors leading from the street is a "function room", which is effectively a small outside conservatory. Past that is an outside area with an outside toilet and storage buildings that may have been stables; then a large covered seating area with its own bar counter; then a large garden at the back.

This history states the pub was bought by Meux the brewers in 1837.

The Royal Commission on the Historical Monuments of England, states the stone outside The Griffin public house which is commonly known as the Whetstone, is in fact a mounting block.

Rex Ward email 5th Sept 2017

I managed to get up to the Griffin. I had a chat with the landlady, who had only been there a short while, but gave me some information. She said that it used to be a coaching inn for travellers heading north out of London; that the pub itself was not listed, but that the building at the back behind the pub (ex stables I would surmise) is Gde II listed. Not had time to check the listing yet. She said that there had been a fire in the late 1920s which possibly preceded and necessitated the 1930s fitting mentioned by John.

Of particular note are the two brick fireplaces, one with a wooden Tudor arch, and another with a brick Tudor arch. The back room with its skylight certainly looked like an old billiards room (the landlady didn't know), and the doors leading from the back room with their Tudor arched tops certainly look inter-war. The bar back looked more modern, but the counter front and wall panelling also looked inter-war. Also of real interest is the matchboard panelled ceiling in the front room (seen in one of the attached photos). The front room would originally have been divided into three areas - a small bar (possibly public) on the right; a jug and bottle bar in the centre (unused doorway still in evidence); and a slightly larger bar (possibly saloon) on the left.

General information about historic pub interiors
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Current beers

This Pub serves 1 changing beer and 2 regular beers.

Regular and recently seen
Sharp's Doom Bar Pump Clip-1

Rock

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Session Bitter

Handpump

ABV: 4%
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Courage - Directors

Burton upon Trent

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Premium Bitter

Handpump

ABV: 4.8%
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Facilities
Sports TV Sports TV
Lunchtime Meals Lunchtime Meals
Roasts on a Sunday
Evening Meals Evening Meals
Garden Garden
Family Friendly Family Friendly
Until 8pm, unless eating.
Disabled Access Disabled Access
Large gates to side of pub need to be opened, then a ramp is needed.
Dog Friendly Dog Friendly
Games Games
Smoking Smoking
covered
Features
Real Ale Real Ale
Real Heritage Pub Real Heritage Pub
Transport
Close to bus routes
34, 125, 234, 251, 263, 300, 000
Closest station (1100m)
Oakleigh Park
Close to London Underground/Overground/DLR (350m)
Totteridge

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