Welcome to Pubs. Pints. People. – the CAMRA podcast!
About the Podcast
The Pubs. Pints. People. podcast brings you interesting stories every other week about the world of beer, cider and pubs.
This year we are going on tour! Join us as we visit branches across the country to chat about all things beer, cider, pub and club related – all while shining a spotlight on festivals, campaigns and branch activities at a local level.
With a whole new cast of hosts joining stalwart Clare Phillips, make sure to tune in on the first Wednesday of every month from April to September for exciting news and updates from the Campaign.
You can listen on most podcast platforms including Apple Podcast and Spotify or you can tune in via our Acast channel! Don’t forget to also follow us on Twitter @PubsPintsPeople
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Season 5 – the podcast on tour!
Episode 1 – What’s in a bottle?
the podcast team will head up to Newcastle to look at CAMRA’s new definitions of live beer and cider and sit down with award-winning author Adrian Tierney-Jones to discuss his new title United Kingdom of Beer, which explores 250 of Britain’s best brews found in bottles and cans.
Episode 2 – Ale & Steam .
we will head to the North Cotswolds ahead of the Ale & Steam Festival to look at the relationship between beer and railways, speaking with beer writer Des De Moor about some of the wonderful breweries and micropubs located under railway arches and the many CAMRA-run festivals taking place at or themed by railways.
Episode 3 – Celebratory brews .
Ahead of the long bank holiday weekend and the Platinum Jubilee, we will be up in Glasgow looking at some big brews to celebrate with, some interesting facts about the royals and our favourite drinks and of course kick off a Summer of Pub.
Episode 4 – Beer is for everyone
In this episode we will be heading down to South Devon to talk through the outcomes of CAMRA’s Inclusivity, Diversity and Equality survey against the backdrop of a year plagued by diversity and equality issues across the beer industry.
Episode 5 – The Theatre of Beer
We will be recording live from the Great British Beer Festival in London looking at the theatre of beer, some of the greatest beer festivals across Britain and the biggest brewers in the beer game.
Episode 7 – Pub Games
Games have been an integral part of pub culture for centuries – in this episode we will be recording from Halifax exploring the relationship between pubs and their games and the impact of games and quizzes have on footfall and revenue.
Episode 1 – Modern British Beer & Cider
We kick off the season with a look at two brand new CAMRA books, Modern British Beer by Matthew Curtis, and Modern British Cider by Gabe Cook.
Episode 2 – The Champion Beer of Britain
Learn more about the country’s most prestigious beer awards, the latest on CAMRA beer styles, and hear from two previous CBOB winners.
Episode 3 – Cider Harvestime
It’s CAMRA’s second annual #CiderMonth, and this week we’re taking a look at harvestime for cider fruit.
Episode 4 – Halloween Horrors
Marking the year’s spookiest holiday, in this episode our hosts delve into horror beers and ciders, discussing faults and poor care.
Episode 5 – The Pub of the Future
We are looking forward ahead to the pub of the future. Joining us are Rachel Hendry (the Burum Collective) and David Jesudason.
Episode 6 – Beer City: Manchester
The hosts focus an episode on a city that has made a name for itself in the beer world – this time it’s Manchester!
Episode 7 – What and Who in 2022
Our hosts look forward to the new year, exploring what and who will be making waves in the beer and cider industry.
Episode 9 – The World of Homeproducing
Featuring James Finch and Jem Jones from the Henley Mile Brewery.
Episode 8 – Beer design and labels
Featuring Pete Brown (author of Beer by Design from CAMRA Books) and The Epicurian Beer People.
Episode 7 – Cider – the apple, the orchard, the land
Featuring Tom Oliver, James Finch and Adam Wells.
Episode 6 – Small Brewers Relief
A dive into Small Brewers’ Relief and an exploration of a recent viral petition, featuring Jack Hobday of Anspach & Hobday brewery and Neil Walker from SIBA.
Episode 5 – Real Ale Abroad
Featuring insights from brewers and real ale lovers in Argentina and Denmark.
Episode 4 – Community-owned Pubs
Featuring CAMRA’s Paul Ainsworth and Matt Garrard of the Tollerton Flying Club.
Episode 3 – The Renaissance of Cider
Featuring Kate Mathers and Dave Matthews, author of the Good Cider Guide.
Episode 2 – London as a Beer City
A spotlight on London as a beer city, featuring Small Beer and Truman’s Brewery.
Episode 1 – Innovation in the face of Covid
Featuring Fyne Ale’s Iain Smith and Rob Scahill of the Orange Tree in Baldock.
Episode 7 – Christmas brews!
Join Ant, Matt and Clare as they chat all about Christmas brews! Joined by Jonny Garrett of the Craft Beer Channel to hear all about his seasonal favourites and Brock Bergius, owner and cidermaker at Gospel Green about premium table ciders that deserve a seat at the table this Christmas.
Episode 6 – Micropubs: COVID victim or survivor?
A look at how micropubs are faring throughout the COVID-19 pandemic. Have they been able to adapt to takeaways easier? Or does the fact that they’re in a smaller space and usually unable to offer food mean that they’ve been left behind with the new restrictions?
Episode 5 – The science of beer
This week the team learn all about the science of beer, sitting down with Amy Booth, a lab technician from family brewer JW Lees and Luke Raven, co-founder of Ilkley Brewery.
Episode 4 – Our pubs make us happier
This episode, learn all about the mental wellbeing benefits of pub going or simply put – how our pubs make us happier. The team speak with Professor Robin Dunbar of Oxford University and beer and travel writer Will Hawkes in more detail.
Episode 3 – Beer vs cider tasting
The team dive into a beer and a cider tasting, chatting with Natalya Watson, Beer Sommelier, author of Beer: Taste the Evolution on 50 Styles and founder of the new virtual beer school – find out more by visiting: https://beerwithnat.com/
Episode 2 – Non-alcoholic brews
This week, the team learn all about non-alcoholic brews, chatting with Rob Fink from Big Drop Brew Co and Stuart Elkington from Dry Drinker. They also hear from Alison Taffs, landlady at The Hop Inn micropub in Hornchurch who gives us her recommendations for the top 10 non-alcoholic beverages to try.
Episode 1 – Family brewers
Join the team as they speak with the legendary Roger Protz about his new book, The Family Brewers of Britain, and Stuart Bateman of Bateman’s Brewery. They also get a chat with Albert Johnson from Ross-on-Wye Cider and Perry Co to hear what it’s like to be a family cider producer.
Episode 20 – Charitable beer
We sit down with Rudi Keyser from Watling St Beer and Clare Chater from Barts Charity and how they have worked together to create a charity beer. We also chat with Alan Mann at Brewgooder about their initiative to fund access to drinking water across various projects around the world.
Episode 19 – Pub music
We’re talking about pub as the original grassroots venue for live music. We sit down with Bev Whitrick from the Music Venue Trust along with the award-winning live music band the Harp & Monkey.
Episode 18 – Belgian beer
We sit down with John Clarke, Chairman of CAMRA’s Stockport and South Manchester branch who talks us through the different types of Belgian beers out there. We also get to speak with Tim Webb, author of the Good Beer Guide Belgium and dive into the archive to learn a bit more about monastery brewing from the late Michael Jackson.
Episode 17 – The Veggie/Vegan Special
We are sitting down with Channel 4’s Beer Expert Mark Dredge to discuss cooking veggie and vegan dishes with beer, along with Phil Saltonstall from Brass Castle Brewing who will chatting about their range of vegan and gluten-free beers.
Episode 16 – Experimental vs traditional brewing
We will be chatting about experimental brewing methods – like Ora’s Tiramisu stout and limoncello IPA – and how that compares with traditional brews such as Timothy Taylor’s landlord.
Episode 15 – Cooking with beer
Katie, Ant and Stella will be learning all about cooking with beer as well as beer and food pairings. They’ll be sitting down with Melissa Cole, author of The Beer Kitchen, and Runaway Brewery in Manchester, which is well known for the exciting beer pairings.
Episode 14 – Ecobrewing
We’re learning all about eco-brewing and sustainable initiatives by sitting down with Purity Brewing and Farr Brew.
Episode 13 – A collab with Pop Culture Brews
In this special one-off footnotes episode to celebrate pubs reopening on the same day as Independence Day, Katie sits down with Pop Culture Brews for an extended interview on American vs British beer.
Episode 12 – American brews
Join us as we learn about American brews and the power of hops by chatting with Lotte Peplow, Craft Beer Ambassador for Europe from the Brewers Association, and Tom Fozard, Roosters Brewery.
Episode 11 – The pubs surviving lockdown
We’re sitting down with two brewpubs to talk about how lockdown has affected them – The Hand in Hand in Brighton and the Hail to the Ale pub in Wolverhampton.
Episode 10 – Diving into the history of CAMRA
In light of CAMRA’s 50th fast-approaching, we’re sitting down with Laura Hadland, author of the CAMRA biography due to be published next year, and one of the four original founders, Bill Mellor.
Episode 9 – Foraging and mixed fermentation
Join us as we learn about sours, foraging for ingredients and mixed fermentation with the Little Earth Project and Adnams Brewery!
Episode 8 – Homebrewing
Homebrewing is booming during lockdown – let’s find out how to brew our own with Homebrewtique founder Claire Russell and former homebrewer turned professional, Andy Parker of Elusive Brewing.
Episode 7 – Beer diversity
Improving diversity in beer has been a big topic in recent years. We will sit down with Ignition Brewery about how they’re actively recruiting people with learning difficulties to work in the brewery and also Emma Inch, beer diversity champion and multi-award winning broadcaster.
Episode 6 – Beer heritage
Learn all about beer and pub heritage as we sit down with Beer Noveau to learn about heritage recipes and Geoff Brandwood who will talk about CAMRA’s pub heritage campaigns.
Episode 5 – Women in beer
Hear from the women changing the face of the brewing industry as we sit down with Jane LeBlonde of Mothership Brewing and Annabel Smith, co-founder of Dea Latis.
Episode 4 – All about… cider!
Learn all about real cider and perry as we speak to cider producers Tom Oliver and Susanna Forbes as well as Cider Museum Director Elizabeth Pimblett.
Episode 3 – Craft Beer
We interview Craft Beer Channel’s Jonny Garrett and Channel 4’s Beer Expert Mark Dredge about what makes craft beer really craft.
Episode 2 – All about beer writing
Learn all about the art of beer writing with legendary beer writer Pete Brown and Roger Protz.
Episode 1 – Unsung Heroes
There are a lot of jobs in brewing aside from making the beer. Sit down with David Bremmer from Robinsons Brewery to find out how they got a band like Iron Maiden to collaborate with them, and Ben Watson, sensory test lead at Beavertown Brewery.
Clare Phillips (host)
Clare was first introduced to real ale and CAMRA when she moved to a new job in Suffolk and was invited to the local beer festival by her journalist colleagues. She initially joined the West Suffolk branch and was actively involved with local beer festivals as a volunteer and for a couple of years helped organise a festival in Bury St Edmunds. Living in a rural county, Clare recognises the value of village pubs to their communities and with Suffolk and Norfolk being large barley growing areas, there’s also no shortage of breweries offering a wide selection of ales in her area.
In 2012, Clare ran the London Marathon dressed as a bottle of Adnams’ Explorer in an attempt to break the world record for ‘Fastest Marathon Dressed as a Bottle’. Sadly, she was beaten to the finish line by a bottle of Hook Norton!
Simon Webster (host)
Simon is celebrating being a CAMRA member for two decades this year, having joined at the Great British Beer Festival in August 2002. Since joining he’s gone on to explore the many different types of ale offered by brewers across the UK, but is always drawn to a good stout or porter if given the choice. As a marketing and communications professional who has spent his life working with membership bodies, Simon has previously lent his expertise to CAMRA in a number of different ways.
Follow him on Twitter @Bees_Bhoy for occasional tweets about beer, football and life in general.
Alison Taffs (host)
Alison Taffs has been a drinks educator for more than 20 years in restaurants, and running tastings with consumers. She founded The Grape Society, running tastings & events about everything from wine to whisky, and Vermouth to Sherry. She is also the co-owner and landlady of The Hop Inn micropub in Hornchurch, which was CAMRA London Pub of the Year in 2021. She loves sharing the love for delicious drinks, converting people to loving real cider & perry as much as she does, and helping cider and perry to regain its place as an appreciated fine beverage. You can follow Alison on Twitter @AlisonGrapeSoc
Helen Smith (host)
Paul Grant (host)
Paul worked in some Scotland’s most beloved, award-winning and iconic cask beer venues. Now he is firmly based in Fife running an online beer store and soapboxing about the great breweries locally.
Katie Wiles (producer)
Katie produces the Pubs. Pints. People. podcast and works full time at the CAMRA office heading up the Communications Team. She previously hosted the podcast in Season 1 & 2 before handing the reigns over to her team of volunteers.
Katie is also a Director on the British Guild of Beer Writers and is a passionate beer drinker and writer. You can follow her on Twitter @wilesaboutbeer
Geoff Bennett (script-writer)
Geoff’s day job is to help provide high-speed transmission capacity to carry the internet under the oceans of the world. Fortunately, the consumption of beer does not seem to have an adverse effect on his ability to do this. He’s been a CAMRA member for many years and has been writing scripts for the #PubsPintsPeople podcast since Series 3 in 2021.
Amongst his hobbies, Geoff is a keen photographer and he is also the quizmaster at his local pub in Nottingham.
Mark Lovatt (script-writer)
Mark Lovatt is an IT software development specialist and author but more importantly a keen member of CAMRA for the past decade and the Scotch Malt Whisky Society for the past 5. He has had an article in BEER and has been writing scripts for the #PubsPintsPeople podcast since series 3 in 2021. Mark prefers dark beers especially Mild and Porter but given a pub with several real ales on tap, will want to try them all. This makes Mark’s annual visit to #GBBF a slightly frustrating experience.
Paul Hadfield (editor)
Paul is a software engineer, musician, and home-brewer from SE London. He enjoys audio production for his band and the CAMRA podcast. Currently a clone of Elusive’s ‘Oregon Trail’ is in the fermenter. You can follow Paul on twitter @hadfieldp or on Instagram @hadfieldp
Simon Clark (editor)
Simon Clark is a freelance production sound mixer. Chairman of the Institute of Professional Sound he is a passionate advocate for structured training within the Film and TV industry. He is Head of Production Sound Recording at the National Film and TV School and writes regular technical articles for “Resolution” magazine.
TV drama credits include 8 series of “Waking the Dead”, “Line of Duty”, “Skins”, “Mad Dogs”, “Burton & Taylor”, “An Adventure in Time & Space”, “Cormorant Strike – The Silkworm “, “King Lear, “Darkness Rising” and “Alleluia”. He was BAFTA nominated for “The Promise” and won the 2016 Sound Craft BAFTA for “Wolf Hall” both directed by Peter Kosminsky
Dick Withecombe (Cider enthusiast)
Dick Withecombe is a cider enthusiast who champions traditional cider presented in a modern way. In March 2019 he established Manchester Cider Club, which continues to meet monthly, and helped establish the #RethinkCider campaign. As organiser of the Cider Bar at Manchester Beer and Cider Festival 2020, and others, he has produced guidelines for a Modern Cider Bar with a balanced provision of styles and methods of dispense.
Twitter: @ManchesterCider and volunteer for @CAMRA_APPLE
Do you have an interest or skill in script-writing, editing or producing? We need volunteers to help run the podcast! Get in touch to register your interest and join the team.
"Brewing is based in science, but there’s a lot of freedom within the brackets of what beer is. You have that artistic freedom and licenses to create what you want.”
– Episode 1: Ben Watson, Sensory Lead at Beavertown Brewery
“20% of the people that come now for brewery tours are wearing Iron Maiden shirts…”
– Episode 1: David Bremmer, Robinsons Brewery on their collaboration with Iron Maiden
“If you want to be a writer, don’t look at the beer writers you admire – look at the writers you admire.”
– Episode 2: Pete Brown, beer writer
“If somebody wants to become a beer writer then do a blog, write away and just hope that people pay attention to what you’re saying.”
– Episode 2: Roger Protz, beer writer
“The term craft beer has been co-opted by bigger breweries now, but I talk about flavour first – people designing recipes, designing beer they want to drink, taking great care and attention to detail with it.”
– Episode 3: Jonny Garret, owner of the Craft Beer Channel
“Lager is so popular because you know it, you understand it. Wherever you are in the world you can order a lager and you know that it’s going to be roughly 5% in alcohol, it’s going to be carbonated it’s going to be refreshing its going to be un-challenging.”
– Episode 3: Mark Dredge, Channel 4’s beer expert