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Welcome to Pubs. Pints. People. – the CAMRA podcast!

About the Podcast

 Pubs. Pints. People. brings you interesting stories every other week about the world of beer, cider and pubs.

Tune in every Tuesday with hosts Ant Fiorillo, Clare Phillips and Matt Bundy as they chat to special guests and learn about beer writing, brewing jobs, cider making and more.

You can listen on most podcast platforms – a new episode will be released every other week on Apple Podcast and Spotify or you can tune in via our Acast channel! Don’t forget to also follow us on Twitter, @PubsPintsPeople.

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Help us help pubs and breweries in the UK by supporting the show! All donations received will go towards CAMRA’s campaigns to support the industry during this difficult time.

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Episode guide

Season 4

Episode 1 – Modern British Beer & Cider

We’re kicking off the season with a look at two brand new CAMRA books, Modern British Beer by Matthew Curtis, and Modern British Cider by Gabe Cook.

Episode 2 – The Champion Beer of Britain                     .

Learn more about the country’s most prestigious beer awards, the latest on CAMRA beer styles, and hear from two previous CBOB winners.

Episode 3 – Cider Harvestime        .

It’s CAMRA’s second annual #CiderMonth, and this week we’re taking a look at harvestime for cider fruit.

Episode 4 – Halloween Horrors

Marking the year’s spookiest holiday, in this episode our hosts delve into horror beers and ciders, discussing faults and poor care.

Episode 5 – The Pub of the Future

We are looking forward ahead to the pub of the future. Joining us are Rachel Hendry (the Burum Collective) and David Jesudason.

Episode 6 – Beer City – Manchester

The hosts focus an episode on a city that has made a name for itself in the beer world – this time it’s Manchester!

Episode 7 – What and who in 2022

Our hosts look forward to the new year, exploring what and who will be making waves in the beer and cider industry.

Previous seasons

Season 3
Episode 9 – The World of Homeproducing

Featuring James Finch and Jem Jones from the Henley Mile Brewery.

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Episode 8 – Beer design and labels

Featuring Pete Brown (author of Beer by Design from CAMRA Books) and The Epicurian Beer People.

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Episode 7 – Cider – the apple, the orchard, the land

Featuring Tom Oliver, James Finch and Adam Wells.

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Episode 6 – Small Brewers Relief

A dive into Small Brewers’ Relief and an exploration of a recent viral petition, featuring Jack Hobday of Anspach & Hobday brewery and Neil Walker from SIBA.

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Episode 5 – Real Ale Abroad

Featuring insights from brewers and real ale lovers in Argentina and Denmark.

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Episode 4 – Community-owned Pubs

Featuring CAMRA’s Paul Ainsworth and Matt Garrard of the Tollerton Flying Club.

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Episode 3 – The Renaissance of Cider

Featuring Kate Mathers and Dave Matthews, author of the Good Cider Guide.

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Episode 2 – London as a Beer City

A spotlight on London as a beer city, featuring Small Beer and Truman’s Brewery.

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Episode 1 – Innovation in the face of Covid

Featuring Fyne Ale’s Iain Smith and Rob Scahill of the Orange Tree in Baldock.

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Season 2
Episode 7 – Christmas brews!

Join Ant, Matt and Clare as they chat all about Christmas brews! Joined by Jonny Garrett of the Craft Beer Channel to hear all about his seasonal favourites and Brock Bergius, owner and cidermaker at Gospel Green about premium table ciders that deserve a seat at the table this Christmas.

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Episode 6 – Micropubs: COVID victim or survivor?

A look at how micropubs are faring throughout the COVID-19 pandemic. Have they been able to adapt to takeaways easier? Or does the fact that they’re in a smaller space and usually unable to offer food mean that they’ve been left behind with the new restrictions?

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Episode 5 – The science of beer

This week the team learn all about the science of beer, sitting down with Amy Booth, a lab technician from family brewer JW Lees and Luke Raven, co-founder of Ilkley Brewery.

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Episode 4 – Our pubs make us happier

This episode, learn all about the mental wellbeing benefits of pub going or simply put – how our pubs make us happier. The team speak with Professor Robin Dunbar of Oxford University and beer and travel writer Will Hawkes in more detail.

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Episode 3 – Beer vs cider tasting

The team dive into a beer and a cider tasting, chatting with Natalya Watson, Beer Sommelier, author of Beer: Taste the Evolution on 50 Styles and founder of the new virtual beer school – find out more by visiting: https://beerwithnat.com/

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Episode 2 – Non-alcoholic brews

This week, the team learn all about non-alcoholic brews, chatting with Rob Fink from Big Drop Brew Co and Stuart Elkington from Dry Drinker. They also hear from Alison Taffs, landlady at The Hop Inn micropub in Hornchurch who gives us her recommendations for the top 10 non-alcoholic beverages to try.

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Episode 1 – Family brewers

Join the team as they speak with the legendary Roger Protz about his new book, The Family Brewers of Britain, and Stuart Bateman of Bateman’s Brewery. They also get a chat with Albert Johnson from Ross-on-Wye Cider and Perry Co to hear what it’s like to be a family cider producer.

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Season 1
Episode 20 – Charitable beer

We sit down with Rudi Keyser from Watling St Beer and Clare Chater from Barts Charity and how they have worked together to create a charity beer. We also chat with Alan Mann at Brewgooder about their initiative to fund access to drinking water across various projects around the world.

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Episode 19 – Pub music

We’re talking about pub as the original grassroots venue for live music. We sit down with Bev Whitrick from the Music Venue Trust along with the award-winning live music band the Harp & Monkey.

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Episode 18 – Belgian beer

We sit down with John Clarke, Chairman of CAMRA’s Stockport and South Manchester branch who talks us through the different types of Belgian beers out there. We also get to speak with Tim Webb, author of the Good Beer Guide Belgium and dive into the archive to learn a bit more about monastery brewing from the late Michael Jackson.

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Episode 17 – The Veggie/Vegan Special

We are sitting down with Channel 4’s Beer Expert Mark Dredge to discuss cooking veggie and vegan dishes with beer, along with Phil Saltonstall from Brass Castle Brewing who will chatting about their range of vegan and gluten-free beers.

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Episode 16 – Experimental vs traditional brewing

We will be chatting about experimental brewing methods – like Ora’s Tiramisu stout and limoncello IPA – and how that compares with traditional brews such as Timothy Taylor’s landlord.

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Episode 15 – Cooking with beer

Katie, Ant and Stella will be learning all about cooking with beer as well as beer and food pairings. They’ll be sitting down with Melissa Cole, author of The Beer Kitchen, and Runaway Brewery in Manchester, which is well known for the exciting beer pairings.

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Episode 14 – Ecobrewing

We’re learning all about eco-brewing and sustainable initiatives by sitting down with Purity Brewing and Farr Brew.

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Episode 13 – A collab with Pop Culture Brews

In this special one-off footnotes episode to celebrate pubs reopening on the same day as Independence Day, Katie sits down with Pop Culture Brews for an extended interview on American vs British beer.

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Episode 12 – American brews

Join us as we learn about American brews and the power of hops by chatting with Lotte Peplow, Craft Beer Ambassador for Europe from the Brewers Association, and Tom Fozard, Roosters Brewery.

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Episode 11 – The pubs surviving lockdown

We’re sitting down with two brewpubs to talk about how lockdown has affected them – The Hand in Hand in Brighton and the Hail to the Ale pub in Wolverhampton.

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Episode 10 – Diving into the history of CAMRA

In light of CAMRA’s 50th fast-approaching, we’re sitting down with Laura Hadland, author of the CAMRA biography due to be published next year, and one of the four original founders, Bill Mellor.

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Episode 9 – Foraging and mixed fermentation

Join us as we learn about sours, foraging for ingredients and mixed fermentation with the Little Earth Project and Adnams Brewery!

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Episode 8 – Homebrewing

Homebrewing is booming during lockdown – let’s find out how to brew our own with Homebrewtique founder Claire Russell and former homebrewer turned professional, Andy Parker of Elusive Brewing.

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Episode 7 – Beer diversity

Improving diversity in beer has been a big topic in recent years. We will sit down with Ignition Brewery about how they’re actively recruiting people with learning difficulties to work in the brewery and also Emma Inch, beer diversity champion and multi-award winning broadcaster.

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Episode 6 – Beer heritage

Learn all about beer and pub heritage as we sit down with Beer Noveau to learn about heritage recipes and Geoff Brandwood who will talk about CAMRA’s pub heritage campaigns.

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Episode 5 – Women in beer

Hear from the women changing the face of the brewing industry as we sit down with Jane LeBlonde of Mothership Brewing and Annabel Smith, co-founder of Dea Latis.

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Episode 4 – All about… cider!

Learn all about real cider and perry as we speak to cider producers Tom Oliver and Susanna Forbes as well as Cider Museum Director Elizabeth Pimblett.

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Episode 3 – Craft Beer

We interview Craft Beer Channel’s Jonny Garrett and Channel 4’s Beer Expert Mark Dredge about what makes craft beer really craft.

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Episode 2 – All about beer writing

Learn all about the art of beer writing with legendary beer writer Pete Brown and Roger Protz.

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Episode 1 – Unsung Heroes

There are a lot of jobs in brewing aside from making the beer. Sit down with David Bremmer from Robinsons Brewery to find out how they got a band like Iron Maiden to collaborate with them, and Ben Watson, sensory test lead at Beavertown Brewery.

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Your hosts:

Ant Fiorillo

A Northerner at heart, Ant moved to Bedford after his job bought him down to the South East. While real ale and craft beer is more commonplace across the world nowadays, Ant didn’t really get his thirst for the drink until he settled more permanently in the UK – a brief introduction to a variety of ales on a pub-crawl one afternoon signalled a final farewell for the ‘fizzy stuff’!

These days, Ant enjoys a more relaxed pace of life with his wife and son in the leafy suburbs.  While he’s far from a seasoned ale drinker, joining CAMRA has allowed him to indulge his passion for socialising, enjoying a decent pint and now even bring back some of that entertainer he left overseas to our very own Podcast.  You’ll often hear Ant before you see him, but he’s always ready to share something delicious with anyone he meets.

Clare Phillips

Clare was first introduced to real ale and CAMRA when she moved to a new job in Suffolk and was invited to the local beer festival by her journalist colleagues. She initially joined the West Suffolk branch and was actively involved with local beer festivals as a volunteer and for a couple of years helped organise a festival in Bury St Edmunds. Living in a rural county, Clare recognises the value of village pubs to their communities and with Suffolk and Norfolk being large barley growing areas, there’s also no shortage of breweries offering a wide selection of ales in her area.

In 2012, Clare ran the London Marathon dressed as a bottle of Adnams’ Explorer in an attempt to break the world record for ‘Fastest Marathon Dressed as a Bottle’. Sadly, she was beaten to the finish line by a bottle of Hook Norton!

Matt Bundy

Matt is a proud member of the Mid-Chilterns branch who discovered CAMRA at his local pub, The Rising Sun in Berkhamsted, where he enjoys nothing more than a good pub quiz over a few local ales.

He is originally from Cumbria and takes regular pilgrimages to stock up on ales from his home county. He is the podcast’s cider aficionado and is currently trying his hand at making his own home-grown cider, with mixed results.

When not down the pub he works in comedy television and has turned his hand to stand-up comedy, also with mixed results.

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"Brewing is based in science, but there’s a lot of freedom within the brackets of what beer is. You have that artistic freedom and licenses to create what you want.”


– Episode 1: Ben Watson, Sensory Lead at Beavertown Brewery

“20% of the people that come now for brewery tours are wearing Iron Maiden shirts…”


– Episode 1: David Bremmer, Robinsons Brewery on their collaboration with Iron Maiden

“If you want to be a writer, don’t look at the beer writers you admire – look at the writers you admire.”


– Episode 2: Pete Brown, beer writer

“If somebody wants to become a beer writer then do a blog, write away and just hope that people pay attention to what you’re saying.”


– Episode 2: Roger Protz, beer writer

“The term craft beer has been co-opted by bigger breweries now, but I talk about flavour first – people designing recipes, designing beer they want to drink, taking great care and attention to detail with it.”


– Episode 3: Jonny Garret, owner of the Craft Beer Channel

“Lager is so popular because you know it, you understand it. Wherever you are in the world you can order a lager and you know that it’s going to be roughly 5% in alcohol, it’s going to be carbonated it’s going to be refreshing its going to be un-challenging.”


– Episode 3: Mark Dredge, Channel 4’s beer expert

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